I have recently ordered the Ifactory one and CR-30 belt printers and was wondering if the pallet 2 pro will have functionality to utilize these printers?
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All the other issues above aside, the most technically difficult challenge with Palette and belt printing is finding a way to create the equivalent of purge blocks / towers. I think it’s possible, but there will be additional constraints around color changes early on since there is limited space for that until many layers have gone down.
I am actively working on this issue and plan to have support for the CR-30 with Palette3 inside Kiri:Moto. Kiri:Moto was one of the first slicers with belt support and probably still has the most sophisticated features specific to belt printing (brims, anchors, belt flattening, base layer controls, looping, etc).
Kiri:Moto is a browser-based, fully open source slicer. You can run it entirely offline (see github docs). The first goal is to produce MAFX files alongside Gcode. Then you load the Gcode into your sender (like OctoPrint) and the MAFX file onto the Palette3 (via USB stick).
You can follow my work on the Grid.Space Discord server: https://discord.gg/J76cEBgjWh
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I'll forward this request to our team, and I believe Stewart and our team have been in touch about this in the past. If not, please feel free to reach out and we can try to help as much as possible with this.
Hey @randy1727, thanks for your question. In general, Palette has 3 requirements for compatibility: accepts non-proprietary filament which is 1.75 mm in diameter, recognizes files sliced in S3D, Cura, KISSlicer, Slic3r/Prusa Slicer, or CANVAS (our slicer), and has open access to filament feed.
While these belt printers do accept non-proprietary filament 1.75 mm in diameter, and have open access to filament feed, we believe they come with their own slicer software, which is not compatible with Palette. Unfortunately, in order to use Palette, you would need to be able to use one of the above slicers with your printer.
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It would be really nice if you added belt printers to your canvas slicer - I have 7 ifactory One and 10 CR-30 3d printmill. or perhaps support ideamaker slicer that has it included now
@shakaworld Thank you for the feedback - we will pass this onto the Canvas team for consideration!
Creality’s CR-30 uses a modified version of Cura called “CrealityBelt Cura”, So does this mean you will have support for this soon?
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Hey Jordan, in general Palette will not be compatible with belt printers. One way you can use Palette with a belt printer though is via multi spool, random, or gradient mode (mm3d.co/multi-spool). These modes do not require a file for Palette, only GCode for the printer. However, these modes are not for calibrated prints.
@alina Why won't it be compatible?
@jdunn Hey Jordan, belt printers require a unique slicer, while Palette 2 is compatible only with Canvas, KISSlicer, PrusaSlicer, Cura, and S3D. Palette 3 will be compatible with Canvas and PrusaSlicer.
Early this year I bought a Creality CR-30 Printmill Belt Printer for it capability of printing infinitely long items on the Z (Belt) axis. Then I read about the Mosiac Palette Pro 3 with it's capability of printing in 8 colors. Then I found out that these two items are NOT compatible with each other. Anyway, it would have been very helpful if Mosiac would have listed the types of printers that worked and those that would not work with the Palette 3 Pro up front in your advertising on your website.
In the mean time, what exactly can the multi spool, random, or gradient modes offer us CR-30 users? Can we still print in 8 colors since we can't use Canvas to its fullest? Will the multi spool, random, or gradient modes in Canvas allow us to set up the 8 color G-Code Files and obtain 8 color printed models? An indepth tutorial on using these modes from Mosiac would be very beneficial to the CR-30 (and other belt printer) owners.
@captg Hi Ron, we have the compatibility list available here: mm3d.co/compatibility
Yes, you can still use non-calibrated modes such as Random, Pattern, and Gradient, and we have materials about how to use these features here: mm3d.co/p3printmodes
You would not need Canvas for these print modes as these are built in directly to Palette's firmware.
This is yet another great reason to add fully offline Palette support OUTSIDE of Canvas - give us the ability to load in multi-extruder Gcode and convert it to Palette commands. It instantly opens up this tool to a huge number of other printers and capabilities!!
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We're also compatible with PrusaSlicer using the P2PP plugin: mm3d.co/p2pp
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